OK OK OK OK....
On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 07:46:25PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 06:42:50PM +0100, Joost van Baal wrote:
> > (En, overigens: ik geloof dat de SuSE mensen er goed in slagen
> > GNU/Linux onder bredere lagen van de bevolking te verspreiden; in
> > die zin zijn die mensen dus erg goed bezig, imho.)
>
> Ja, maar ze verspreiden GNU/Linux met een corruptie van het geest van
> GNU. Ze zeggen "belangrijke programma's in het systeem niet vrij kan
> zijn"
Ik denk niet dat dit een zinnige discussie gaat worden...
> =======
>
> (free translation by Lionel of JoostvB-talk)
>
> > OTOH, they are doing a good job of spreading GNU/Linux to more
> > people
>
> Yes, but the manner they are doing it is corrupting the very soul of
> the GNU.
I don't think SuSE is there to saveguard the "soul of the GNU".
<snip>
> > There are forums set aside for licensing flame wars,
> > please go post your thoughts there.
> > http://darwinfo.org/faq.shtml
>
> You won't have me believe this is a random quote.
It indeed is not a random quote.
O well, there are just different opinions on this:
1 SuSE:
http://www.suse.com/us/company/suse_faq/index.html
"Open Source Commitment: SuSE supports a standardized and open source
Linux, available to all. We believe in retaining customers through
excellent service, not through proprietary software."
2 Debian:
http://www.debian.org/
"Debian is a free operating system (OS) for your computer."
"When we speak of Free Software, we mean freedom"
"most of the basic OS tools come from the GNU project; hence the name
GNU/Linux"
3 GNU:
http://www.gnu.org/ (some quotes collected from this site)
"free software is a political philosophy (or a social movement)"
"all programmers [owe] an ethical obligation to respect the users'
freedom to share and change software"
"software which is published should be free."
"make our society better"
I guess people have to decide for themselves. I am not very sure wether
it would be usefull to repeat all arguments which have been made on
these issues here again. Information (and, yes, flamewars) on these
issues is abundant.
Bye,
Joost
PS: another non-random .sig (o my, more than four lines even...) ;-)
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>5.) Bert greps Ernie's crontab from the NFS volumes mounted from
> the SCSI server over the FDDI LAN. Should Bert use agrep, egrep,
> fgrep, SYSV grep, BSD grep, or GNU grep, and if he uses GNU grep,
> does that mean he has to give the source code to Ernie's crontab
> to the FSF or the LPF?
He should use GNU grep, because it proves he is a godless
anarcho-communist and helps forment the revolution. He must give,
the source code of Ernie's crontab, Ernie's genome, all of Ernie's
relations and descendents genomes, and the genome of anyone who
has ever touched Ernie, to RMS for incorporation into the
GNUman-genome project [the webpage of which has not been updated
for 5 years], and therefore allowing RMS to annoy Eric Raymond
even more.
It means that everyone in the WORLD will be allowed to clone or
alter GNU/Ernie, they can even charge for this, but they can't
prevent anyone else from cloning or altering GNU/Ernie or a
derivative of GNU/Ernie. Unless, of course, the fundamental
technolgoies underlying Ernie are patented or Ernie is classified
as a munition for export purposes.
Kapusniak, Stefan m, on
news:alt.religion.kibology, archived at
http://groups.google.com/groups?th=fa07d1c2601512c7,4&ic=1&selm=GyNA2s0KTTaJ092yn%40zetnet.co.uk
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